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		<title>Comment on The Altar Boy Who Loves African-Americans by Jeff Norman</title>
		<link>http://citizenjeff.com/2012/04/the-altar-boy-who-loves-african-americans/comment-page-1/#comment-149084</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LeaNdr, it’s not clear how you computed Zimmerman “should have been back at his car” when he wasn’t, or why the computation is significant. Dale Gilbreath is one of the state’s two lead investigators working with the special prosecutor, and he co-signed the probable cause affidavit. He testified under oath at Zimmerman’s bail hearing that the prosecutor has no evidence to support any “confrontation” theory, or any evidence that Zimmerman didn’t walk back to his car after speaking with the police dispatcher, or any evidence that Martin wasn’t the first to attack. In other words, just as I contend, there’s no evidence Zimmerman committed a crime.

O&#039;MARA: But you have nothing to support the confrontation suggestion, do you?

GILBREATH: I believe I answered it. I don&#039;t know how much more explanation you wish.

O&#039;MARA: Anything you have, but you don&#039;t have any, do you?

GILBREATH: I think I&#039;ve answered the question.

GILBREATH: Other than his call and that witness?

O&#039;MARA: Yes.

GILBREATH: And the fact that where it ended up. No.

O&#039;MARA: Well you do have some other evidence don&#039;t you? We had Zimmerman&#039;s statement, don&#039;t you?

GILBREATH: We have Mr. Zimmerman&#039;s statements, we have the shell casings and we had Mr. Martin&#039;s body. 

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So do you know who started the fight? 

GILBREATH: Do I know? 

O&#039;MARA: Right. 

GILBREATH: No. 

O&#039;MARA: Do you have any evidence that supports who may have started the fight? 

GILBREATH: No. 

O&#039;MARA: ...do you have any evidence to contradict or that conflicts with his contention given before he knew any of the evidence that would conflict with the fact that he stated I walked back to my car? 

GILBREATH: No.

O&#039;MARA: No evidence. Correct?

GILBREATH: Understanding -- are you talking about at that point in time? 

O&#039;MARA: Since. Today. Do you have any evidence that conflicts with his suggestion that he had turned around and went back to his car? 

GILBREATH: Other than his statement, no. 

O&#039;MARA: Any evidence that conflicts any eyewitnesses, anything that conflicts with the contention that Mr. Martin assaulted first? 

GILBREATH: That contention that was given to us by him, other than filling in the figures being one following or chasing the other one, as to who threw the first blow, no. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LeaNdr, it’s not clear how you computed Zimmerman “should have been back at his car” when he wasn’t, or why the computation is significant. Dale Gilbreath is one of the state’s two lead investigators working with the special prosecutor, and he co-signed the probable cause affidavit. He testified under oath at Zimmerman’s bail hearing that the prosecutor has no evidence to support any “confrontation” theory, or any evidence that Zimmerman didn’t walk back to his car after speaking with the police dispatcher, or any evidence that Martin wasn’t the first to attack. In other words, just as I contend, there’s no evidence Zimmerman committed a crime.</p>
<p>O&#8217;MARA: But you have nothing to support the confrontation suggestion, do you?</p>
<p>GILBREATH: I believe I answered it. I don&#8217;t know how much more explanation you wish.</p>
<p>O&#8217;MARA: Anything you have, but you don&#8217;t have any, do you?</p>
<p>GILBREATH: I think I&#8217;ve answered the question.</p>
<p>GILBREATH: Other than his call and that witness?</p>
<p>O&#8217;MARA: Yes.</p>
<p>GILBREATH: And the fact that where it ended up. No.</p>
<p>O&#8217;MARA: Well you do have some other evidence don&#8217;t you? We had Zimmerman&#8217;s statement, don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>GILBREATH: We have Mr. Zimmerman&#8217;s statements, we have the shell casings and we had Mr. Martin&#8217;s body. </p>
<p>UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So do you know who started the fight? </p>
<p>GILBREATH: Do I know? </p>
<p>O&#8217;MARA: Right. </p>
<p>GILBREATH: No. </p>
<p>O&#8217;MARA: Do you have any evidence that supports who may have started the fight? </p>
<p>GILBREATH: No. </p>
<p>O&#8217;MARA: &#8230;do you have any evidence to contradict or that conflicts with his contention given before he knew any of the evidence that would conflict with the fact that he stated I walked back to my car? </p>
<p>GILBREATH: No.</p>
<p>O&#8217;MARA: No evidence. Correct?</p>
<p>GILBREATH: Understanding &#8212; are you talking about at that point in time? </p>
<p>O&#8217;MARA: Since. Today. Do you have any evidence that conflicts with his suggestion that he had turned around and went back to his car? </p>
<p>GILBREATH: Other than his statement, no. </p>
<p>O&#8217;MARA: Any evidence that conflicts any eyewitnesses, anything that conflicts with the contention that Mr. Martin assaulted first? </p>
<p>GILBREATH: That contention that was given to us by him, other than filling in the figures being one following or chasing the other one, as to who threw the first blow, no. </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Altar Boy Who Loves African-Americans by LeaNder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeaNder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but the lynch mob has brainwashed a lot of people into perceiving fiction as fact&quot;

Not quite citizen. It&#039;s interesting to watch this American debate, mainly for it&#039;s extensive use of terms like &quot;lynch mob&quot;.

I agree that GZ stopped shortly after having been told not to follow. But if we consider the time he has in fact followed, and assume he returned to his car more slowly, thus give him twice the time to do so, it suggests that around 19:15 he should have been back at his car. This is not were things happened between 19:16* and 19:16:5* (56?) when we hear the shot.

Some of us simply have troubles to imagine GZ searching for an address in a community that has only four streets, he is said to have regularly patrolled, and in which he lives for 3 years. The streets are rather easy to describe. Why can&#039;t he give an exact address for the car since it is parked at a &quot;cut through&quot; with no address, but later, assuming he didn&#039;t move his car, is in fact searching for an address? Even if we assume he decided to move his car to a precise address of his choice, whatever followed couldn&#039;t have happened. No?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but the lynch mob has brainwashed a lot of people into perceiving fiction as fact&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite citizen. It&#8217;s interesting to watch this American debate, mainly for it&#8217;s extensive use of terms like &#8220;lynch mob&#8221;.</p>
<p>I agree that GZ stopped shortly after having been told not to follow. But if we consider the time he has in fact followed, and assume he returned to his car more slowly, thus give him twice the time to do so, it suggests that around 19:15 he should have been back at his car. This is not were things happened between 19:16* and 19:16:5* (56?) when we hear the shot.</p>
<p>Some of us simply have troubles to imagine GZ searching for an address in a community that has only four streets, he is said to have regularly patrolled, and in which he lives for 3 years. The streets are rather easy to describe. Why can&#8217;t he give an exact address for the car since it is parked at a &#8220;cut through&#8221; with no address, but later, assuming he didn&#8217;t move his car, is in fact searching for an address? Even if we assume he decided to move his car to a precise address of his choice, whatever followed couldn&#8217;t have happened. No?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Justice Radio: Interview with Richard Winger by The Party You&#8217;ve Been Waiting For Has Arrived &#124; Citizen Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Party You&#8217;ve Been Waiting For Has Arrived &#124; Citizen Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Frederic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>paul Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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